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Judicial Scandals and Vintage Vinyl: 1972's Greatest Hits

Mike Tremblay /Tom Rowsey Season 2 Episode 7

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Ready for a podcast that bounces between courtroom scandals and Chuck Berry's only number one hit without missing a beat? We've got you covered.

The gavel comes down hard in this episode as we tackle the bizarre case of two Democratic judges arrested for harboring illegal immigrants. One judge allegedly helped an undocumented defendant escape ICE agents through a courthouse back door, while another kept a suspected Venezuelan gang member as a "handyman" in their guest house. As we unpack the legal and ethical implications, we can't help but wonder what motivates supposedly impartial judges to risk their careers and freedom for such actions.

But this isn't just a current events show. We take a delightful detour into the musical treasure trove of 1972, sharing personal stories about iconic tracks that defined an era. From Don McLean's "American Pie" (no, it wasn't about Lynyrd Skynyrd) to Badfinger's Beatles-esque "No Matter What," these songs carry powerful memories. Mike recalls making out to The Raspberries' "Go All the Way," while Tom shares how Dr. Hook's "Sylvia's Mother" became the soundtrack to lonely summer days on his sister's farm, played endlessly on an 8-track player.

Of course, our resident troublemakers Pip and Squeak crash the party with their own questionable 1972 selections. Chuck Berry's innuendo-laden "My Ding-a-Ling" makes an appearance, as does something about a dead skunk in the middle of the road. The segment culminates in our discovery of perhaps the strangest song of 1972 – a track called "Jungle Fever" that leaves us genuinely wondering if we're hearing torture, kidnapping, or something else entirely.

Whether you're a music enthusiast, a news junkie, or just someone who appreciates unfiltered conversation, this episode delivers on all fronts. Subscribe now and join us next week as we explore the musical landscape of 1973!

Speaker 2:

Welcome back to the MT Alternative Podcast, the only show where breaking news, vintage tunes and rodent-sized rage somehow make perfect sense together. I'm your eternally exhausted presenter, daniel, and today's episode is well, it's got everything. First up, mike and Tom take a deep dive into a truly bizarre headline Two Democratic judges arrested for harboring illegal immigrants. That's right, justice may be blind, but apparently it's also not great at hiding people. Then shifting gears from scandal to soundtrack, the guys dust off the vinyl and count down their favorite songs from 1972. Spoiler alert if you like flared jeans and guitar solos longer than your lunch break, you're in for a treat. And yes, brace yourselves. Pip and Squeak are back with their usual charm complaints and possibly a lawsuit waiting to happen. So grab a drink, lower your expectations and let's get into it. This is the MT Alternative alternative.

Speaker 4:

Hey, welcome back to the mt alternative podcast. Tom, what the fuck is going on, bud?

Speaker 3:

not much mike what's going on with you? Not much.

Speaker 4:

Let's get this party started oh yes there we go I understand, and the party has begun the party has begun the party has begun. Yes, yeah, speaking of party Shoot. Had a great week in last weekend it was an anniversary weekend.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes, it was.

Speaker 4:

And we went to Shenandoah Virginia. Excellent, had a great time You've been there a couple times now, right. Yeah, we like it. It's laid back and it's easy for her to you know. Get around up there.

Speaker 3:

Cool.

Speaker 4:

No, you know there's not a lot to do, so you don't have to worry about her having to do a lot. So you know we ride.

Speaker 3:

So was it just more or less an R&R type thing.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's what it was was really an unneeded r&r thing and you know a lot of things going on and life awesome life in general yeah, it was awesome man, but back back in the new york groove yeah, it's good to be back yeah, it's always good to be back soon we'll come back to our once a week, once we get our lives in order. Yeah, yeah, summers. Kind of missing that every week, me too, me too man.

Speaker 3:

But hey, it is what it is.

Speaker 4:

We had another shit show at work yesterday.

Speaker 3:

Everybody panicked. We came through though.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we did.

Speaker 3:

Yep Luckily.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, josh wasn't even.

Speaker 3:

I was a little bitch again.

Speaker 4:

Josh wasn't even involved and he was in a panic.

Speaker 3:

Not sure what that was all about, but he probably felt, oh shit, she's going to fall on my foot next time. What the hell.

Speaker 4:

Boy Devon took the end of it, didn't he?

Speaker 3:

Devon did, but what a trooper man. I wish I had his chill Me too of it, didn't he?

Speaker 4:

Devon did, but what a trooper man, I wish I had his chill Me too, if I could just chill like him over things it would be.

Speaker 3:

Just lets it roll right off. Man, God bless him. Wish I could be that way. No Shout out.

Speaker 4:

Shout out.

Speaker 3:

It's just get your shit together, people. Yeah, you run. You're a big company and you run it like a mom and pop. Mom and pops can do better.

Speaker 4:

Just talk, communicate, yeah, talk to one another. That'd be a first step.

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry, I'm not going to. No, I'm not sorry. Customer service, where we are, is kind of a little messed up.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

We're not doing anything for the beginning of the week, but hell come Thursday, Friday, especially Friday.

Speaker 4:

Oh, where was this shit?

Speaker 3:

on Monday it's a rush. You don't wait till the last day. I've worked at many a factories. We never ran it like that. Things were smooth. Worst one I've been at, I'm sorry to say, but yeah, again, I'm not sorry to say it's run like a mom and pop. See, I'm insulting mom and pops man, I shouldn't do that. Nah, nah, anyways, we'll move on. How about the? You hear about those two judges? Yeah, democratic judges, I should say progressive, which is stupid. Are they really progressive?

Speaker 4:

Progresso.

Speaker 3:

They're trying to be.

Speaker 4:

They're probably going to end up.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so you had one that had gang members living at their home Right, he was a retired judge. They had another judge. You got to hear this story. It's messed up. Trial for this guy Right. He's been deported once, came back Uh-huh Many assault charges on him. Right, she finds out that ICE is in the building in the courthouse, goes out and freaks out on him, tells him they got to go see the chief judge. Meantime she brings back in the courtroom, takes his defender and him in her chambers, lets him go out the back door.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Go out this door. Guess what. They caught the stupid ass and she got arrested right in the court by the FBI.

Speaker 4:

See, and that's the way the system ought to work. Look, I don't care where you're sitting, it doesn't matter what your name is.

Speaker 3:

Nope, you've got to go by the law.

Speaker 4:

Exactly If.

Speaker 3:

ICE is there. They're there for a reason. This person's been deported before. Let me read this quick. Okay, judge Hannah Dugan. This is the one in Wisconsin that let the guy go out the back door. On April 25th 2025, milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan was arrested by the FBI on charges of obstruction and concealing an individual to prevent arrest. According to the federal prosecutors, dugan allegedly helped Eduardo Flores Ruiz, an undocumented immigrant, avoid arrest by immigration and customs enforcement agents at the courthouse. She's accused of directing Flores Ruiz and his attorney to exit through a side door, thereby evading ICE agents who were waiting to detain him. Flores-ruarez was later apprehended outside the building. Dugan has been charged with two felony counts obstructing or impeding a federal proceeding and concealing an individual to prevent discovery or arrest. Her attorney has stated that the arrest was unjustified and not in the interest of public safety Bullshit.

Speaker 4:

Yeah well, yeah see, she's an idiot.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, a little bit, you think.

Speaker 4:

This is perfect, but oh boy.

Speaker 3:

Then you got this other guy, former Judge Joel Cano, whatever his name is Right. I can't even pronounce this. Former Donna. A Neck County Magistrate, judge Joel Cano and his wife Nancy were arrested for allegedly harboring Christian Ortega Lopez, a suspected member of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Argua and an undocumented immigrant. Ortega Lopez has been residing in the couple's guest house after being hired by Nancy Cano as a handyman. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, handy man. All right, you want to elaborate on that, don't you, tom?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, go ahead, buddy Handy with the ladies.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he's handy, all right.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's what's up.

Speaker 3:

All right Federal agents arrested the Canos at their home and they are accused of attempting to hide evidence related to the ortega lopez's presence on their property. Don't let them find the video of him being a handyman.

Speaker 4:

It's very handy yeah, man sounds like it let's see.

Speaker 3:

attorney general uh pan bondi has issued a stern warning the judges who challenge or obstruct the trump administration's immigration enforcement policies, declaring that they will be held accountable under the law. These arrests have been intensified tensions between the judiciary and the federal government, highlighting the broader conflict over immigration enforcement and the role of local officials. Yeah, Well. You know it is what it is Legal immigrants. I just find this. Well, you know it is what it is Legal immigrants. I just find this Interesting. I find it comical too, sorry.

Speaker 4:

Well, yeah, because everybody's always.

Speaker 3:

Why here's my why are these people so into the thugs from other countries? Gang members, what is this Money? You know what it is Money. They want to have their own little army. I guarantee it. I'm on a little conspiracy thing here, but get all these gang members in. They can vote and they can also be somewhat protection.

Speaker 4:

Yes, yes.

Speaker 3:

So are you paying them?

Speaker 4:

Yep.

Speaker 3:

That's what it seems like to me, tom. A little bit, a little bit, a little bit, it's fucked up A little bit. And what about that lady from the Epstein?

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, the one who committed.

Speaker 3:

What the hell was her name? Something Virginia, Graffia or Jafria.

Speaker 4:

Jafria, not anymore.

Speaker 3:

Posted a thing a while ago saying you know, against Epstein and Prince Andrew was another one I am not suicidal. If anybody sees this, let them know. Well, isn't that funny. Just recently this poor girl is committed suicide.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I doubt it Just couldn't take it anymore.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we know what's fucked up there.

Speaker 4:

What, what.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, just like Epstein committed suicide. Yeah, we believe that, we all believe. Oh, the cameras weren't working. There's a lot of deep state shit going on, tom.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I wonder if the cameras went out about the same time that the damn emails got lost.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, good old Hillary. No, she bleached them Bleach bit. But anyways, I digress, man. What else do we want to discuss?

Speaker 4:

I'm excited about the music stuff. I know I'm excited about the music stuff too.

Speaker 3:

We'll get to that. We'll get to that. So we had some rain which we well needed.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we had some rain, which we well needed.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we absolutely needed rain.

Speaker 4:

I have this thing going on my throat again this weekend. Pollen, a little pollen.

Speaker 3:

Well, first I forget, I'd like to discuss my crispy blunt strawberry flavor again.

Speaker 4:

You would like to discuss this again?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's what we did this time, or I did this time. You did your usual.

Speaker 4:

The one I found.

Speaker 3:

See, I prefer the mushroom gummies over the THC gummies.

Speaker 4:

Well see, and I like the THC gummies. Can we get the way up here?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we're here. It's all good, tom, it's all good.

Speaker 4:

Okay, well, Anyway, I was going to say something and it just got all.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so we see the THC gummies are working for you Well.

Speaker 4:

Most folks will understand.

Speaker 3:

Most folks will understand, most folks would understand. So, speaking of Devon earlier, yeah. He went to my stomp, Morganton Hemp.

Speaker 4:

Right.

Speaker 3:

Shout out to Morganton Hemp.

Speaker 4:

Again, again.

Speaker 3:

There we go. So Devon walked in. I guess he was quite a happy customer. We'll find out. He did call, but of course I did miss that call last night by the time I noticed it was late. Yeah, but find out what he says about it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

According to the people there, he was bunching on his crispy blunt on the way out the door.

Speaker 4:

He didn't even wait to open it up. I understand, I know.

Speaker 3:

Great place, great people. If you're in the Morganton North Carolina area, check them out Morganton Hemp.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Breckmont, ab. How's that beer going down there, buddy? Like a fat kid on a seesaw yeah it's going down a little slower today, I noticed.

Speaker 4:

Fat kid on a seesaw. Yeah, I get it man.

Speaker 3:

That's why I said a little slower today.

Speaker 4:

Well, it takes a little more weight on you.

Speaker 3:

Maybe you shouldn't be taking them at 4.30 in the morning. I didn't. Oh, not today.

Speaker 4:

No, okay, today was 9 o'clock right there in Lenore when I talked to you, I did that one. I'm just checking, you know.

Speaker 3:

But by the time I got here, yeah, you don't have to say anymore, I see it on your face, literally.

Speaker 4:

I can see it on your face.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there we go, see it in your eyes. So have we heard any more from?

Speaker 4:

the little dudes. You know it's been a while because I was on vacation. Yeah, I haven't really heard.

Speaker 3:

Pip's always been quiet, though Never hear much from Pip Squeak. I don't know what Squeak gets himself into.

Speaker 4:

You can probably read the newspaper and find out anything you need to know about Squeak.

Speaker 3:

Well, hopefully not.

Speaker 4:

Squeak's probably been arrested twice.

Speaker 3:

He's on our show Kind of gives us a bad name. Now, when he picks his songs, I think he's going to. Is he going to stick to the year, or is he just going to ramble off songs that he likes, Because we can do that too, you know? Is he going to stick to the plan?

Speaker 4:

He all knows what he's going to do.

Speaker 3:

Well, I guess we're going to find out, one way or the other, what he's going to do when he gets in here. I did leave notes for him to try to go by little bullet points.

Speaker 4:

Let's hope Pip can hold him down a little bit.

Speaker 3:

We know how that goes.

Speaker 4:

Well, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Anyway, anything else on your mind bud.

Speaker 4:

Well, I was just thinking.

Speaker 3:

A long pause there.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's me thinking.

Speaker 3:

Oh okay. I wasn't really sure Smoke's getting in front of my face here.

Speaker 4:

Smoke gets here.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it got in my eyes, all right.

Speaker 4:

But no, I just I was trying to think of what I was wanting to talk about earlier and it left my mind.

Speaker 3:

Where'd it go.

Speaker 4:

Well, if it was in my mind, there's a lot of places it could have went.

Speaker 3:

You have no idea where it went.

Speaker 4:

That's pretty much what we could say, but I like the other saying better.

Speaker 3:

Okay, we don't know where it went. All right, we will discuss this.

Speaker 4:

I'm just not sure.

Speaker 3:

This messed up song we heard earlier.

Speaker 4:

Is that true yeah we'll discuss it during the music segment.

Speaker 3:

Some great music, a little messed up. 72 had some great freaking music. You kind of forget until you look back.

Speaker 4:

Had lyrics.

Speaker 3:

Of course, again, I was only 9 years old, so it's not like I have a fond memory, but it's the songs that I grew up listening to after.

Speaker 4:

I would have been scarred if I would have heard this song at nine years old. Yeah, I would have been scarred. You folks are just going to have to wait and listen. This is crazy.

Speaker 3:

But anyways, I hear some rumbling.

Speaker 4:

Scarred, oh God.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't know if Troy brought him in or not. We're going to have to find out. But, anyways, let's get these guys in, because I'm excited to do our segment after anyway, so I'm looking forward to that. Hopefully, squeak sticks to the program. We'll see what happens, folks.

Speaker 4:

Good luck.

Speaker 3:

Anyways, we'll be back in a bit, folks, Back in a bit.

Speaker 1:

Hey, squeak, here we are again. Buddy, yep, always, here we are again. How was your trip today? How did you get here? Well, I, over a mountain and over a river. Okay, did you walk? Did you drive?

Speaker 1:

No, troy didn't pick you up again, did he? Well, of course he did. Why would he do that? Because me and Troy are friends. Well, what the hell, what do you mean? What the hell? He jumped out of the dam. This time he did not. You said that what the hell, what do you mean? What the hell? He jumped out of the dam at the time. He did not. You said that no, no, evidently, listen, hear me out. Okay, the helicopter went through some turbulence, oh, and it kicked him out and he fell. Are you sure you told me he jumped because you talk too much? No, no, no See. And then he and you were happy, he was healing, well, he was healing, and he healed very nicely. And then he, what, I don't know what's going on. How do you heal? Not nicely? No, no, no. My point is you hated Troy. Troy didn't like you. He thought you were a freaking nuisance. Wait, wait, wait. I think there's some misunderstanding. No, no, no, misunderstanding.

Speaker 1:

Everybody's heard you On this podcast? Well, of course they hear me. I'm famous Pip Squeak, squeak, ta-da. Pip Squeak, squeak, ta-da. See it squeaks at the end? Yeah, well, of course it is Nobody.

Speaker 1:

I still want to hear more about the story of you and Troy. When did you become besties? I didn't say besties. I still want to hear more about the story of you and Troy. When did you become besties? I didn't say besties, we're friends. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Something's not right. What's not right about? I remember Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, just wait a minute. Okay, okay, why? Why is it so hard to understand that Squeak and somebody can be buddies? I'm not saying that Not best friends, but buddies. We're talking about Troy. We have a body in common.

Speaker 1:

You threw frickin' melons at Troy's car. That was in the past. Yeah, okay, you threw frickin' melons at Troy's car. Yeah, I heard the interview with him. He seemed very upset about it. Oh boy, that's what we'll get to buddy. Anyway, I was so excited about talking about my music. That's what we'll get to buddy.

Speaker 1:

Well, and then here comes all this how's Troy? And then when I say it's everything good, you want to go against the grain. I like Troy buddy. I don't think everything's that good. Well, that's because I think Troy doesn't like you. You should hear how Troy talks about you. Well, I think Troy's a saying good. Well, that's because I think Troy doesn't like you. You should hear how Troy talks about you. Well, I think Troy's a great guy Me too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, see, something's off, something's not right here. What do you mean? I can see Troy letting bygones be bygones, right, but not you, squeak. You have a motive, something's going on. I've known you long enough, buddy. No, no, no, we can agree to disagree. I don't disagree with you at all, oh well, anyways, okay, let's skip to the song. Did you actually do the proper homework this week? Skip to Malou, yes, okay. Did you actually do the proper homework this week? Skip to Malou, yes, okay. What about the songs those guys picked? What did you think? Don't ask me that. Why Screak? Those were good songs. You were going to want me to be all nice and everything. Something's wrong.

Speaker 4:

All right.

Speaker 1:

Screak. Let me just make you feel good that nothing's wrong. Okay, their choices suck. Wow, I thought all four of those songs were Bye-bye American Pie. Well, there's still American Pie all over the damn place. That's not what the song's about. Squeak, well, what is the song about then? It says it right there in the title.

Speaker 1:

I think both of those guys I think Mike and Tom both explain what the song is about. Well, have you heard Tom explain? Shit, it gets a little old. I don't know what happened. And it goes over the mountain and through the valley. He did slump a little, a little. He's got backstories. Have you heard? This guy's an idiot. He couldn't say the ABCs without going through the damn I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so, screech, what songs did you pick? And you stuck to 72, right, of course I did. Okay, what's your first one? My dang-a-lang. Ah, squeak, no, no, no.

Speaker 1:

Of all the Chuck Berry songs. That's what you pick. Yeah, because you know why. Why, it's the only number one he had. He had that. It was the only number one song he ever had.

Speaker 1:

Okay, that's pretty sad. He had that. It was the only number one song he ever had. Okay, that's pretty sad. Yeah, well, that's the only number one thing I have. Why? Why do you like this song, squeak? Why would it be sad if that was the only number one thing I had? Okay, is that the only reason you like it? Because of my dangling? Yeah, because it was the only number one hit from Chuck Berry. No other reason you like it? No, it's got nothing to do with Chuck. Oh, it's because he's singing about his dangling. That's why I like it. You're pretty juvenile. Well, that's why everybody liked it. It was the dangling song. So screw Chuck Berry.

Speaker 1:

The song's funny. And here's something else that's funny about the song. Of all the songs, you ever get to that part where he's swimming across Turtle Creek, yeah, and it's hard getting across that creek, yeah, and both hands holding his dangling leg. Could you imagine somebody flopping around out there with both hands down under the water? And what was he doing flopping around? There's something wrong with you, squeak. Yeah, there's something wrong with him too. Let go of the ding-a-ling and swim ashore, you stupid. Yeah, well, give me a squeak. I think that's funny as, anyway, it's Swim. Sure, you Scream. Here you scream. I think that's funny as hell. Well, it is kind of funny, but of all the songs in 72, you picked that one. Yeah, it was funny.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I can't wait to hear your next one. Me neither. What is it? You tell me I smell something. It's a prominent skank in the building. Yeah, I see you, dirty dog you. Anyway, what the hell? I've never even heard of that stupid song. Yes, you have. No, I haven't. Everybody heard. Like Dead sky along the road. I want it, you do it, I three it, you four it, I five it, you six it, I seven it, you eight it. I didn't eat no such thing. Well, that's what the song says. Oh, that stupid song. Anyway, I remember that song Again. Okay, my ding-a-ling, I can live with that one. It was a popular song. I live with my ding-a-ling all the time, not your ding-a-ling, my ding-a-ling. I don't live with your ding-a-ling. Yeah, I, I hope not, anyways.

Speaker 1:

We're not really a couple. Keep telling yourself that Squeak, no, anyways, what? The Dead skunk in the road, what somebody. I see dead skunks all the time in the road. You think I'm going to stop and write a stupid song. Those are possums, yeah, those are stupid too. Yeah, but if you're ever in the woods, yeah, just follow a possum, why They'll take you to the road.

Speaker 1:

Oh goodness gracious, what about squirrels? They do the same thing. You can't follow a squirrel. Why. You're going to jump around tree to tree. That'd be fun, and hop around here and fly over there. I think that would be pretty fun, sweet, well, it'd be fun, but you can't do it. You know what else? If I was a squirrel, I could visit the old Keebler. If you were a squirrel, I would go visit the Keebler elves. Well, oh, you're not friendly with them though. Still, oh, oh, okay, nope, why, why Did you not listen to that podcast? I heard it all and you know what. Their cookies are wonderful. Their cookies are shit. No, no, no, what. What Would you eat? The coconut, stupid ones, coconut, or what are those other ones? Those stupid sandies? What the hell's a sandy cookie, exactly? Why in the hell would you make a cookie like that. That's stupid. Yeah, but their fudge cookies, their fudge mint cookies, are delicious. Squeak Nutter butter, those are all right, but that's not Keebler.

Speaker 1:

I know Nutter butter. Oh, you're comparing. Do they make them in a tree? No Well, then they suck? No, they don't. Yeah, elephants, elephants make them. Again, we can agree to disagree. Okay, well, what about this dead skunk in the middle of the road? Yeah, are we going to agree to that? No, you can't. I mean, that's a song you picked out I've never heard of it.

Speaker 1:

I like that song Sounds. I've never heard of it. I like that song Sounds stupid. No, it's a legit song. It's I'm sure it's legit Squeak, but it just you write about things. You know All the songs in 72. You're so vain. Ah, there's many others. Yeah, and you pitched that one how stupid is that song? You're so vain Probably take the songs about you. Well, guess what dumbass it is? Oh, okay.

Speaker 4:

It's about you.

Speaker 1:

I'm singing about you. How is that not about you? Anyway, yeah, me too. I do want to say this Squeak, maybe we're better off you not picking out songs, because you can't seem to pick out a good song if your life depended on it. Listen, that was a great song. It's like Squeak, I'm going to pick out the dumbest songs and that's what I'm picking. That's not a dumb song, that's what it seems like. Did you see that? Damn, whatever the heck that was they had on there? Stupid shit there at the end. Good songs, no good songs. Sylvia's Mother by Dr Hook no, no, no, no, no. The one that you said well, listen to this and that Go All the Way. Uh, oh, oh, no, no, yeah, that that, that Chaka-ra or whatever the hell it was. Yeah, chaka-chaka-chaka. I didn't play that, he played that. Yeah, exactly that's what I'm trying to say. Well, that was stupid. Yeah, that's we. Yeah, I think that was their point, though, buddy, you said well, did you hear that stupid shit? Yeah, well, did you hear the stupid shit they played? Okay, what?

Speaker 4:

about their two favorite songs.

Speaker 1:

Okay, you gotta get off the sexual stuff. That was well. What about the two songs they both picked? Those were good. I well, I did. I did enjoy. You made fun of American Pie. Well, I enjoyed Sylvia's mother. I enjoyed Sylvia's mother. Wait a minute, squeak. What do you mean? You enjoyed Sylvia's mother.

Speaker 4:

I enjoyed Sylvia's mother Wait a minute Squeak.

Speaker 1:

What do you mean? You enjoyed Sylvia's mother. What does that even mean? You can read between the lines yeah, you're between something. Yeah, well, there's something wrong with you. Yeah, pen to sound panty. All right, you know what? We're going to end this right now. Off that. I can't believe you even said that stuff. Oh boy, yeah, yeah, we're going to end it. We'll be back, maybe next time, or maybe it'll just be the Pip Show. Yeah, we're going to say a Pip Show. Yeah, yeah, I've been to those before. Yeah, I'm sure, listen, buddy, I've been to a Pip Show. You better change your attitude a little. You started off very nice and now you're being an ass. We're going to go now.

Speaker 3:

Holy crap, squeak. What the hell, what the hell is dead skunk in the middle of the road.

Speaker 4:

Not sure.

Speaker 3:

I've heard of my ding-a-ling, Chuck Berry. That's freaking awesome.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, have you heard of?

Speaker 4:

it ding-a-ling, chuck berry.

Speaker 3:

That's freaking awesome yeah uh, yeah, have you heard of it ding-a-ling?

Speaker 4:

no, that ding-a-ling the dead skunk in the middle of the road.

Speaker 3:

You have heard of that, yeah tom, I gotta admit I've never heard of it there's, there's a lot. Yeah, I always thought you and squeak were kind of like no, no, no, kind of the same, somewhat Not the same at all You're not as angry as Squeak.

Speaker 4:

Well.

Speaker 3:

A little different there oh a little. But the good thing is he stuck to the program.

Speaker 4:

He did, he did. Those are songs from 72.

Speaker 3:

Yep, they did. We'll give him credit. Grumbled a little bit about it. Yeah, we let him do what he wanted. He'd be picking songs from now till bouncing around everywhere, but anyways, now we get to go into our 72 segments, yeah, which I'm excited about. Damn, there was a lot of songs from 72 a lot of great songs a lot of songs yeah yeah, it was so many.

Speaker 3:

Uh, you have any from 72. Now, it was a long list of songs, tom, we could have picked any, but we, both of us had that. We picked two songs each people. We went to the top 100 songs of 72. Each of us said, you know, let's find two songs, that there's a lot of songs we all like, we both liked, yeah, we both love so many 80.

Speaker 4:

I'd say again, but oh, yeah, but uh, two songs that kind of stuck out to both of us and those are the ones we're going to talk about right so, uh, you go ahead there first tom well, I think the first one that I'm going to talk about a little bit is the, the american pie ah, don mclean, classic that is a good song, and another one of my favorites well, I think the reason that it stands out so much to me is because I'm such a Skinner fan and most of the people think that this song was written about the Lynyrd Skynyrd plane crash. Nope, you're right, but that's really not what happened. But that's every time I hear the song.

Speaker 3:

Usually, I think it's about Buddy Holly, right yeah it was the Big Bopper. Big Bopper Buddy Holly.

Speaker 4:

But people want to transfer the tragedy for oh, that meant this, and that's like 9-11. Everything means this, Right right right this right, right, but you know, and, but I'm just saying this song makes me think of the plane crash and how it took out so many great great yeah who knows what would have been you know what would have been uh exactly, and to me that was the guy that the labamba guy was on that plane, buddy holly, and uh, um, uh, was it richie balin or richie, something like that big bopper?

Speaker 4:

yeah, the La Bamba guy was on that plane too. Yeah, buddy Holly, buddy Holly. And.

Speaker 3:

Was it Richie Balin or Richie, something like that Big Bopper, yeah A lot of them and just so many young people. Now the song itself, though, is just a great song Snuffed out. Yeah, you know that I've heard forever.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

What the hell was that?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I'm not sure that was a long, long time.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's YouTube doing its favorite. Let's throw a commercial in every two seconds. There you go Buy our product.

Speaker 4:

But anyway. That was a great song in my era and it just reminds me of so much, a lot of good times and things.

Speaker 3:

It is one of those nostalgic type songs, whether it's thinking about that or just hanging around with friends and reminiscing about things Awesome. Let's play it out a little there you go. Great story through the song Excellent song Tom.

Speaker 4:

Excellent song. Love that song.

Speaker 3:

Anybody who grew up in that era pretty much remembers that. Okay, so I myself. You know who Eric Carman is, sure, well, he was in a band back in the day called the Raspberries Right, a song that, like I was saying, my song is talking about Eric Carman when he was with the Raspberries Right Go All the Way, which I thought was my song, is talking about Eric Kierman, which is Raspberries Go All the Way, which I thought was a great song. I remember being, you know, one of my first girlfriends listening to this, but this is always it's just one of them songs that always has a nostalgic feel to me. I love the song and, like I said, I remember one girl in particular. I'm not going to mention any names, it's a song playing Some other girl you know a little making out in the back seat, some other girl which we were in the front seat, but it's just that song just stuck with me, I understand, and, of course, eric Carman, which at the time I didn't know Eric Carman, was in that band.

Speaker 4:

I had no idea. You even lived back then.

Speaker 3:

Great song.

Speaker 3:

You see what I'm saying. You feel it, man. It's just it was perfect time, perfect song. It was like and of course you go home after like Lovey, dovey and shit, you know, Stars in your eyes yeah, exactly that feeling. That's what this song does for me and to this day I'll still listen to this song. Not because of that, it's just I like the song, but it does bring back those memories. It sure does. I remember when I first heard this, but that was one of mine and yours was. What was your next one?

Speaker 4:

Well, you know, we always got to go back to good old Dr Hook.

Speaker 3:

Dr Hook.

Speaker 4:

Good old Dr Hook.

Speaker 3:

Dr Hook and the song.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, in the 70s.

Speaker 3:

Sylvia's.

Speaker 4:

Sylvia's mother.

Speaker 3:

Sylvia's mother.

Speaker 4:

And every time you go to a 1970s, 1971, 1972, every year you're going to find a Dr Hook song Right, and every one of them always brings something back to me. And once again it's when I was young. I stayed and spent a lot of time with my sister and her husband.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

And they had these in 8-track. Ah, 8-track, I would sit at their farmhouse in the summer for hours on end and listen to these Because they would go to work. And there I was, on this farm, miles from anywhere. That's all I had. It was Dr Hook on an 8-track, and so these songs.

Speaker 3:

I can remember. You obviously are a Dr Hook fan.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I am Most of their songs are really good.

Speaker 3:

I know a lot of their songs. You actually told me many songs I never even realized was Dr Hook.

Speaker 4:

Right right.

Speaker 3:

I was shocked. I'm like thinking of them as this weird-ass band. I'm pretty much a Dr Hook fan. Yeah, I'm like Rolling Stone and all that crap. I'm thinking that and you're telling me what.

Speaker 4:

Cover the Rolling Stones. And yeah, the other one you couldn't believe was when You're in Love with a. Beautiful Woman.

Speaker 3:

When You're in.

Speaker 4:

Love with a Beautiful Woman.

Speaker 3:

That's them, Yep yep, that's them.

Speaker 4:

So what's this song actually about? He's calling up his ex-girlfriend and he's getting a hold of her mom.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

And she's like no, she's upstairs and she's packing, she's going to be leaving today. She's got her another fella.

Speaker 3:

Oh.

Speaker 4:

You're dead. Is she a hoe? Yeah, no, no, yeah. Well, he treated her like shit. He probably did. Now her mother's like no, she's going to do better. She's been marrying a fella down Galveston Way. Yeah, as the song would say, oh that's kind of sad.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it is a sad song. Well for him, I guess.

Speaker 4:

Well, sylvia, she seems to think it's okay, but he keeps screaming so she's had enough, yeah. And he keeps screaming to the operator, hey, no, 20 cents more. And he keeps dumping quarters in the phone.

Speaker 3:

Ah, okay, all right, so mine is. I don't know if you know this one. You've heard of Bad Finger.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, okay, I have a Bad Finger.

Speaker 3:

They have a song called no Matter what. Well to me. I remember when I first heard this this is why this song sticks out to me I thought for sure it was the Beatles. Ah, I thought it was a new Beatles song At that time. At that time I was starting to my aunt. I remember going to their house they had 45s of Beatles. Yeah, so I listened to those and that's when I started getting into the Beatles. You know, you get into those different bands at that age, but anyways, badfinger, when I heard that song playing I'm sorry, this sounded like Paul McCartney to me a little bit, just a little bit Back then to me that's who I thought it was. Especially the harmonizing comes in.

Speaker 4:

This is such a good song too.

Speaker 3:

To me at that time, this song was freaking kick-ass.

Speaker 4:

There's so many good 72 songs Again.

Speaker 3:

Tom 72,. We had so many we had to pick out, we threw them all. Both of us went through them all. Yeah, it was tough. I could have picked out 30 or 40 of them. Yeah, but the ones that stick out, like I said, uh, raspberry song, because of that moment and this, I was a beatles fanatic back then still like the beatles, just not as much.

Speaker 4:

This sounds like the beatles to me. Yeah, it does me too excellent song though great song and again.

Speaker 3:

So many flipping songs from the 70s that we could just go over and talk about.

Speaker 4:

Y'all send us some of your favorite 72 songs, yeah exactly, and this journey will continue.

Speaker 3:

We could do a whole few hours on this, but it'd be like listening to a radio station, obviously with the rules and all that. We can't do that, can't play other people's songs and just play them without royalties. We can't do that. Can't play other people's songs and just play them without royalties. We're not rich people. But anyways, great song, great four songs.

Speaker 4:

This music, we are rich.

Speaker 3:

And I wish I could just keep playing more.

Speaker 4:

I know.

Speaker 3:

Just keep going. Next yeah exactly, but there is one song in particular Tom.

Speaker 4:

One in particular.

Speaker 3:

One in particular. We were going through our list earlier. Do you remember what song it was? Think and don't worry. I can edit shit, so don't worry about it. I'm not pausing anymore.

Speaker 4:

Daddy, don't worry, I can edit shit, so don't worry about it. I'm not pausing anymore. Daddy, don't walk so fast.

Speaker 3:

Let me refresh your memory. Refresh it yeah let me refresh, see if what you hear catches your.

Speaker 4:

You can name that tune in three notes.

Speaker 3:

I don't hear anything coming out right now.

Speaker 4:

You have to give me three notes. Oh shit, yeah that's all right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's what I say too.

Speaker 1:

I.

Speaker 4:

I can feel it with the eye. Oh yeah, the clickety-clacks.

Speaker 3:

What the hell is that?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's them clickety-clacks.

Speaker 3:

All right, wait for it. Wait for it, here it comes.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, eye eye.

Speaker 4:

What'd she do, fart?

Speaker 3:

Well, she said no, so I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 4:

No, no, I think she just had a problem with her. Well, wait a minute. More than a malfunction.

Speaker 2:

I see.

Speaker 1:

I see, I see.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if there's someone being kidnapped, tortured or good-ass sex. I don't know what's going on here, yeah.

Speaker 4:

I'm not too sure about that last part either.

Speaker 3:

Chacachas Jungle Fever. Jungle Fever I have never, ever heard of this song before now.

Speaker 4:

Well, I've had a fever, but not like this. No.

Speaker 3:

So if anybody out there has ever heard of this, we'd like to hear from you. Yes, 1972. Where were you? What the hell were you thinking when you heard this?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no 1972. Where were you? What the hell were you thinking when you heard this?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, no, no. I still want to know what the no, no, no is. What's going on? Brr, yeah, anyways that's a pretty messed up, tune there.

Speaker 4:

Yeah See, 1972 was great, and then it was like Something a little weird. Remember when people said say, oh, I had a brain fart. Yeah, well, that one shit its pants.

Speaker 3:

This is what happens when you do research. Sometimes you stumble down some effed up shit yeah, whoa, what's this, what the? Hell is that? I have no idea, and there you go and there you have it there's one I've never heard no, yeah, I'm shocked on. You heard them all, but not that one. I never heard that one, and I've heard some funky ass shit, but not that one either and I'll just tell you, that's that one I was at a top 100 it was it, it was uh, I know why.

Speaker 4:

Why go ahead? Well, I can edit. It was a spanish song. We wouldn't have known that that's not ours. That's spanish. You just go? No, no listen. Yeah, yeah, okay, that Spanish.

Speaker 3:

Spanish people got better communication than that. No.

Speaker 4:

Okay, taco.

Speaker 3:

Oh, what the hell is that?

Speaker 4:

See that's Spanish. See that's communication right there.

Speaker 3:

The 10 worst songs from We'll do that another time?

Speaker 4:

Yeah Well, that wouldn't.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, anyways, that would have been on one of them.

Speaker 4:

Didn't we just start that? Yeah, anyways, that would have been on one of them, didn't?

Speaker 3:

we just start that. Yeah, we started something. We started something. Anyways, bud, another great episode. Love this episode, I did too. Remember people. You can reach us on Amazon. Iheart Podchaser. Now is another new one Podchaser True fans whatever, that is Not only fans. No, we're not getting naked and shit. True fans.

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Speaker 4:

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Speaker 3:

No, no, you said it right.

Speaker 4:

Okay, okay, okay, okay, and we always thank God for the gift of gab.

Speaker 3:

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Speaker 2:

And that, dear listeners, brings us to the end of yet another episode of the MT Alternative Podcast, where the takes are hot, the hosts are questionably prepared and the sarcasm is absolutely free. Now, next week, brace yourselves. We're getting back to talking about music. Yes, real music, specifically the glorious, weird and possibly flared pants-filled year of 1973. Expect nostalgia, guitar solos and at least one mention of a band that should have broken up earlier. Oh, and Pip and Squeak. Yeah, they're supposed to return for their segment, unless Squeak gets left behind by Troy and Pip decides to Uber to a different podcast. Fingers crossed Until then. You can find the MT Alternative Podcast on Spotify, buzzsprout, deezer, deepcast, amazon, google Podcasts or wherever it is. You pretend to listen to smart content while actually scrolling memes. Also, check out our website, mtaltopodcom. I'm Daniel. I'd say it's been a pleasure, but we all know better. Catch you next time or don't.

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